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SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby AndyB » Fri Sep 16 2016 08:08

Same again for next year? That is, same time of year (April), location (Parcent), format (mix of hills/speed/miles)? Would you like me to organise it or has anyone else any suggestions, ideas or would like to have a go? :)
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Postby Martin H » Mon Sep 19 2016 14:32

YES - gagging to do what I missed out on this year!
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Postby MikeP » Tue Sep 20 2016 07:02

Browner, I'm in.
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Postby Eddie » Tue Sep 20 2016 07:21

Yes please Browner, that's a no brainer if ever there was one ;-)
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Postby jez.lloyd » Tue Sep 20 2016 15:08

100% yes, cannot wait!!!!!
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Postby Simon » Tue Sep 20 2016 16:04

yes please. As long as I can fit it in when I have Easter holidays from Stagecoach.
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Postby Paulo » Tue Sep 20 2016 22:00

Count me in,
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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Mon Sep 26 2016 12:37

Yes please Browner!

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Cyclist feature.

Postby Simon » Mon Sep 26 2016 18:16

Cyclist magazine on Costa Blanca. Nice looking route Andy! image 129 is the first page.

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Re: Cyclist feature.

Postby AndyB » Tue Sep 27 2016 13:48

Simon wrote:Cyclist magazine on Costa Blanca. Nice looking route Andy! image 129 is the first page.


Ha,ha, indeed and one that should be familiar to you! Almost the exact route we did. Thanks....
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SRVC Training Camp the Main details

Postby AndyB » Wed Sep 28 2016 15:27

The Accommodation

Finca La Asmoladora, Parcent, Valenciano, Costa Blanca, Spain.
https://www.homeaway.co.uk/p2208?uni_id=19496

This is the same accommodation as our previous 2 training camps have been. Please refer to the link above for its specification. We will book the whole Finca, which includes the casa and the casitas and it caters comfortably for 16 people. If we go above 16 people then further accommodation can, and would need to be, sought. It will be first come first served, with 1st claim and those impositioned from last year taking priority. The accommodation is excellent and a perfect setting for a training camp - right at the bottom of the Col de Rates, as featured in the 2016 Vuelta Espana. The rooms are twins, 2 per room, excluding 2 single rooms in the tower. Based upon numbers from last year it will likely be sharing. It has self-catering facilities, i.e. for breakfast and for BBQ's if we choose. There is Wifi, a swimming pool and a double garage to store our bikes/bike boxes without any problems.

The Dates - please pick a preference

Week 1. Sat 1st Apr to Saturday 8th Apr - @ £1400 (for 16) = £87.50
Week 2. Sat 8th Apr to Sat 15th Apr* - @ £1865 (for 16) = £116.56
Week 3. Sat 15th Apr to Sat 22nd Apr* - @ £1865 (for 16)
Week 4. Sat 22nd to Sat 29th Apr - @ £1400 (for 16)

* This includes Easter weekend, 14th-17th April, so the cost is higher.

In the past we paid half the cost as a deposit at the time of booking, then the second half around January/February.

Flights - Gatwick to Alicante

Flights have yet to be scheduled for April 2017, which means we should get the cheapest price when they first become available. I'd suggest early morning flights on the Saturday, and afternoon or evening flights for the return; giving us an opportunity to ride those days if we choose to. The Finca is approximately 1 hour away from Alicante airport. I'd suggest that if we have 16(+) going, then arranging different flights would be to our advantage. Flights, depending upon provider/weight/luggage, with bike (EasyJet £35 each way, BA part of weight limit) should be around £200 (approx. last years cost).

Transfers and car hire

Last year we had 4 cars (one provided by Simon, which saved costs) to help with transfers and for travelling to and from restaurants. Car hire is relatively cheap, and worked out about £180 per car, plus covering the costs for Simon, say £600 in total. This worked out to be something like £37.50 approx. per person, paid up front. We each also paid 20 euros on the day each way to transfer the bike boxes. I may look at alternative arrangements this time around.
We will again be looking for volunteers to do the driving.

The riding

Many will know the area now, so there should be little need of guiding, however, Andy B will act as chief guide. We will follow similar routes to what we have done in the past, however, we will vary them to add interest and different challenges. We are staying in mid-range mountains, which can go as high as 1000 metres, cat 1/2 mountain territory. The roads are smooth, fast and generally car free. The riding can be challenging but it is very rewarding and very scenic. There will be some structure to the riding, but expect to be riding for many hours per day, each day, with the likelihood of stopping for lunch/coffee in places. Lunch is normally no more than a few euros.

The articles posted by Simon above are good examples of what riding to expect as we will ride those very roads.

Eating

I will be booking the Paella lady again, possibly for our last day. I will also book a few restaurants before we get there to help with the logistics in the evening. Meals out are around 15-20 euros, depending on the order.

The last 2 years have been top quality training weeks and have become weeks to not miss out on. So can you let me know if you are going and then also which week is preferred (1 to 4). I will book the one with the most choices.

Thanks. :D
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Postby AndyB » Wed Sep 28 2016 15:31

I'm in - week 1, 2, 3, 4 in that order for me. :)
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Postby kingy » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:11

Roughly how much (based on last year) do you reckon total cost is for the week all in?
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Postby Richard » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:17

Prob yes.
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Postby Martin H » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:28

Week 1 or 4 only due to other people being off already at work.
Definitely in tho!
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Postby stevecoombs » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:30

I'm definitely in. Week 1,2,3,4 in that order, same as Browner. I'll take a single room if there's an option for it?
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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:31

Week 1 please Browner. Due to cost and fitting in with racing! But any will do. Maybe we could put a full team in for TVRR this year [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]

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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Wed Sep 28 2016 16:33

Also I prefer Pacrent

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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Gaz_Longmate » Wed Sep 28 2016 17:01

I'm in

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Postby Chris Hewitt » Wed Sep 28 2016 17:03

Put my name down
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Postby Chris Hewitt » Wed Sep 28 2016 17:04

No date preference
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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Gaz_Longmate » Wed Sep 28 2016 17:59

I'm easy on timing. 1 or 4 would be good... But in all honesty I dont care this year was one of the most enjoyable weeks I've had in my life for some years!!!

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Postby Matt Reid » Wed Sep 28 2016 19:04

I'm dreaming of this already, woops pass me the tissues.
My preferences time wise would be the last week of April (a few sunnier days would be nice) or second preferred week would be the first as Easter weekend tends to be family gatherings.
YEAH bring it on.
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Postby Douglas » Wed Sep 28 2016 20:33

Yes please! Week 2, then 1 please. Can't do the others....
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Postby AndyB » Thu Sep 29 2016 14:03

kingy wrote:Roughly how much (based on last year) do you reckon total cost is for the week all in?


Difficult to say Dan as I suspect everyone spent/saved money in different areas. But approx. something like this:

Accom = £87.50 (half paid Oct, remainder in Jan/Feb).
Flights = £200 (depening on provider/weight/bike) paid around Oct
Transfers = £60-70 (paid in Jan/Feb with remainder of rent)

So up front its approx £357 spread out over a few months. Plus the weeks food, say 200-250 euros.

The most expensive thing is the flights. As all costs, other than food/drink, are paid up front, it's easier to budget over the months. The accommodation is amazingly cheap for the standard on offer. Eating out is cheap too. This is all at cost - no profit anywhere - and in fairness I don't think you could do it any cheaper (the more that go, the cheaper it becomes). Other providers, training companies, etc, would charge double this and that wouldn't even cover the cost of flights. Hope that helps. :)
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Postby Eddie » Thu Sep 29 2016 20:06

Best holiday ever Dan! I'm in whatever the week please Browner but weeks 1 or 4 then 2 or 3 for me given a choice.
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Postby Carl » Thu Sep 29 2016 21:22

I'm a definite. Any week suits me, happy to work with the dates that suit Doug and Simon.
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Postby degolier » Fri Sep 30 2016 11:21

I can do weeks 1 & 2, in that order. Looking forward to a cabin full of cyclists instead of retired people like I had last year! :-)
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Postby Simon » Fri Sep 30 2016 17:29

okay, can do week one but would have to miss certainly first maybe 2nd days. Week 2 is Easter but WTF! I guess flights might be dearer looking at BA. Week 3 could do. Week 4 would have to come back early to open school.
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Postby Martin H » Tue Oct 04 2016 07:44

It's looking like week one suits most people, it's cheaper and fits better with the rest of the years racing plans too.
Can I suggest we make a decision on this ASAP so that people can book the time off work?
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Postby AndyB » Tue Oct 04 2016 08:13

Martin H wrote:It's looking like week one suits most people, it's cheaper and fits better with the rest of the years racing plans too.
Can I suggest we make a decision on this ASAP so that people can book the time off work?


Yes, H. Week one it is. Go ahead and book leave.
Date is 1st April to 8th April.
It looks like we will have enough for a full villa. Obviously that doesn't mean you cannot go as further accommodation can be found. :D
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Postby Martin H » Tue Oct 04 2016 16:55

Leave booked :D
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Postby MikeP » Wed Oct 05 2016 13:09

BRILLAINT BRILLIAN BRILLIANT CANNOT WAIT
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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Paulo » Thu Oct 06 2016 18:27

Yes, getting excited already. Thanks for putting some options together, Andy, for me week one, four, three, then two (in order) suit me. :D
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Postby Eddie » Sat Oct 08 2016 13:21

Chatting to Yuriy today he said he'd be very interested in joining us if possible so I thought I'd just let you know in case there's any spare places for non-members.
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Postby AndyB » Mon Oct 10 2016 10:24

Eddie wrote:Chatting to Yuriy today he said he'd be very interested in joining us if possible so I thought I'd just let you know in case there's any spare places for non-members.


Ok Eddie. I've personally no objections, however, we will put it to a vote to those that are going.
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Postby AndyB » Mon Oct 10 2016 11:24

Ok, flight details, although there are various permutations, these would be the recommended 3 options for transfer logistics:

Flight - Gatwick to Alicante and return. Prices as @ 10/10/16.

Option 1: BA = £170, with 2 x 32kgs hold baggage which can include a bike
Outbound - 0630 arriving 1010
Inbound - 1555 arriving 1935

Pro - cheaper. Con - very early start time at Gatwick / a few issues with BA on this flight last year

Option 2a: EasyJet = £176 + (bike = £70) = £246
Outbound - 0930 arriving 1300
Inbound - 1335 arriving 1510

Option 2b: EasyJet, later return option = £183 + (bike = £70) = £253
Outbound - 0930 arriving 1300
Inbound - 1630 arriving 1805

Option 3: Monarch = £180 = (bike = £60) = £240
Outbound - 0740 arriving 1110
Inbound - 1200 arriving 1340

So far, Mike and H have gone for Option 2a. I'm likely to go with option 1.

Cost of bike hire, to weigh against luggage charges/bike box hire/inconvenience: 6 days x 25 euros (£22.46) = £135

To budget flights over time, I always add my luggage on later, ie pay £183 now, £70 in Jan/Feb, if that helps.
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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Tue Oct 11 2016 09:04

The BA price is outbound only btw and the 1555 is an outbound flight. Inbound options are 0030, 1055 and 2020. With the 1055 it is £223

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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Tue Oct 11 2016 09:12

Gone for option 2a too...

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Re: SRVC Training Camp 2017

Postby Charlie Deacon » Tue Oct 11 2016 21:37

As a heads-up, there is a Norwegian flight from LGW-ALC timed 0950-1310 if the EasyJet flight fills up and people want to go at a similar time.

A bike on Norwegian costs up to £38, so if coupled with the 2020 return flight that Chris is getting on BA it works out to be a cool £196...
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Ground transport

Postby Eddie » Wed Mar 22 2017 08:13

Apologies for the slight delay and now they're booked here's our ground transport details for Spain in this attached Excel file.
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